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#330894 - 11/05/08 07:08 PM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: octopus]
Stumpy Stumpy Battle Dwarf Demon FW Member Registered: 26/09/00 Posts: 2304 Loc: Keepin It Bll*ks in Birmingh...	it wouldn't affect me at all cos i'd still admit to catching f'call $;\)$ keep it squirrel _________________________ Stumpy aka Steve Jones the Fat Little Hobbit, always KiBiB
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#330900 - 11/05/08 08:13 PM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: Stumpy]
Pete B Pete B Argumentative Bar Steward FW Top Poster Registered: 26/06/00 Posts: 7104 Loc: In the beautiful south... far ...	"tench and carp to 33.10" That's one hell of a tinca mate.... got any photos??? _________________________ Happy Carping Pete BCSG & KIBIK
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#330919 - 12/05/08 11:56 AM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: Simondo]
ROTOFRYER ROTOFRYER Demon FW Member Registered: 24/05/01 Posts: 2205 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand	Originally Posted By: Simondo 'Ulimate' and 'Bait' together in a true sense would mean a bait which carp WILL ALWAYS want to eat, no matter what time of year or conditions. I don't believe that will ever be achieved, unless Dean and PB are on the verge of developing something! If you do guys, I would hope my ignorance will save me from it as I would hate (In answer to your question Dean) to make it that easy! I agree. _________________________ Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent.
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#330977 - 14/05/08 10:05 PM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: ROTOFRYER]
DEAN C DEAN C Ultimate Carp Nutrition Guru Outstanding FW Member Registered: 05/02/06 Posts: 749 Loc: KENT	No fear of that happening at the mo chaps cos ive got the ar5e with it all at the moment _________________________ THE MASTERBAITER??????? KIBIK http://www.ultimatecarpnutrition.co.uk
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#330996 - 15/05/08 10:16 PM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: DEAN C]
bivyman bivyman Star FW Member Registered: 15/04/01 Posts: 1358 Loc: bristol	(If such an additive or bait would become available,what would be the upshot of this and would it take some of the mystery and magic away from our sport?) When you find this magic formular ring me and tell me the first 7 numbers that come into your head so i can do with winning the LOTO or you ought to write a book on "understanding women" will be a best seller for sure LOL Seriously though for me it would kill my fishing knowing i could not fail to catch every time i went although at the min i could do with all the help i can get $\:\)$ _________________________ You know when you've been tangoed. gota runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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#331000 - 16/05/08 11:24 AM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: bivyman]
jfish jfish New FW Member Registered: 07/03/08 Posts: 9 Loc: hereford	if the "ultimate bait" was ever to come about it would obviously work really well and for a time it would be like clubbing seals !! however i beleive like most new baits it would work for a time until the fish wised up to being caught on it all the time and then you'd be back to square one,having to concentrateon the old basics like location,the right rig,etc ,etc bare the thought.....!!!!
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#331016 - 16/05/08 07:50 PM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: jfish]
octopus octopus Enthusiastic FW Member Registered: 11/08/02 Posts: 391 Loc: There's four months angling b4...	however i beleive like most new baits it would work for a time until the fish wised up to being caught on it all the time and then you'd be back to square one,having to concentrateon the old basics like location,the right rig,etc ,etc............ Again....Depends on the fish..if they are angled for all the time they have to eat something and the wide selection of quality that is offered always offers them a different protein/ammino balance...i fished a lincolnshire day ticket place last weekend and found a lot of fish in one area,my mate and i fed the fish in 2 - 3 ft water with fusion,dmb tiger nut and home rolled fishmeals for two hours....they scoffed the lot,low oil pellets and freebies scored 8 fish overnight...24lb the best. _________________________ Prefer the larger pits
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#331017 - 16/05/08 07:52 PM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: octopus]
octopus octopus Enthusiastic FW Member Registered: 11/08/02 Posts: 391 Loc: There's four months angling b4...	and they were all parrots,it was like....the horror....the horror... j. _________________________ Prefer the larger pits
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#331063 - 18/05/08 06:05 AM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: octopus]
nick27g nick27g New FW Member Registered: 14/02/08 Posts: 18	I think that each time the "Ultimate bait" has come along so far it has been only for a short period of time. First we had the Milk Proteins, then Amino Acids, Fishmeals, Feed Enhancers and Triggers, and each particular "product" has only been ultimate for so long. Every time we have had the ultimate bait it has worked or not worked on the Angler using it, or every water is different. There are some absolutely excellent Baits and bait ingredients on the Market , and in the right hands all will catch, yet due to Laziness or incorrect baiting they don't catch as expected. No matter what Bait is used it still has to be put where the Fish are comfortable eating it, whether that is at Extreme Range or under the Rod Tip. Correct Application will produce far more fish than a switch to the current "fashion".
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#331075 - 18/05/08 11:01 AM Re: When does it get too easy? [Re: nick27g]
lancashirecarper lancashirecarper Star FW Member Registered: 02/11/03 Posts: 1096 Loc: part-time yorkshiremen	Do you not think we already all have our own ultimate baits chaps, Years of confidence, application, and watercraft can turn even censored baits into winners. I think boilies are as good as they need to be tbh, used in the right way your gauranteed success anyway. I see it as the further erosion of the fundamentals of angling, bait boats, scientifically formulated baits(not even sure if thats directed at you dean), the current angling industry with its full timers seeing fish as pay checks (small at that), and lakes rimmed with carp. Its all too easy now if you want it to be.
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