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#326992 - 29/01/08 09:57 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: Filthy_Animal]
karpkisser karpkisser Outstanding FW Member Registered: 22/04/02 Posts: 517 Loc: Walthamstow, London	the 30 will be OK Filthy and your spot on to be concerned half the pit is closed but for some reason the fish does not seem to take refuge, it seems to be a tough old beast that’s been hounded all it’s life, not half as fragile as most pike. Oh, and last weekend I was up stupid early to make sure I was first in line of the divvy pikers. Just like you describe. Never mind, it’s providing a bit of entertainment because it’s been too windy to go boat fishing on the inland sea the last few Sundays. _________________________ James M
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#326995 - 29/01/08 10:34 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: karpkisser]
Filthy_Animal Filthy_Animal Star FW Member Registered: 03/09/03 Posts: 1418 Loc: Polar bear country	The divvy pikers flock in hordes round here whenever they hear of a half decent fish out, although it's probably worse with it being a bad area for piking anyway. You know the kind I mean, boat rods and beachcasters, a 40p 'spinning trace' with a treble clipped on, some mackerel fillets from asda and nothing to unhook or land a fish with, or if they're lucky a set of blunt nosed pliers! $\:D$ Do you know what the fish has been taken on previously? Maybe a rather large dead or live bait would score if you haven't tried it already. _________________________ Your mother's a welder!
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#327019 - 30/01/08 07:22 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: Filthy_Animal]
karpkisser karpkisser Outstanding FW Member Registered: 22/04/02 Posts: 517 Loc: Walthamstow, London	It was taken by a bloke using a 40p ‘spinning trace’ and a silly little rubber shad, first cast in the swim. He admitted to being a complete novice. Fair play to the bloke though because the bailiff came round in the morning telling people a big female was chasing males about in the shallows and he was the first to move in. Live baits are banned and clockwork deadbaits would not be possible. I have gone in with big deadbaits like you suggest because everybody else seems to be using tiny thing like sprats. Unusual things like blueies, Sow Para and Indian mackerel as well as the obligatory whole herring. Lure fishing round the baits to try and stir them up. A ‘angler’ came round and asked if I could help him unhook a fish because he was nervous, he had left the poor thing on the bank. Makes my blood boil. To be honest, Filthy, mate. I’m not really used to these pressured fisheries when piking. What has influenced me to have a go, apart from the weather, is reading Nige Williams excellent book. It’s a signed copy so maybe if I rub it on the rods that will make a difference. Read it ? _________________________ James M
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#327081 - 31/01/08 10:14 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: karpkisser]
Filthy_Animal Filthy_Animal Star FW Member Registered: 03/09/03 Posts: 1418 Loc: Polar bear country	Pity you can't use liveys like as a jack livey may nail her $;\)$ Are people scoring with the small baits or is it hit and miss? I've not read Nige's ghost written book like and don't really intend to unless I'm dying of boredom and someone lends me it as I find nearly all fishing books tedious. With piking it's even worse as there isn't really anything new to write except some new fancy amercian lures. I hear naughty Nige could do with the book sales though...... $\:o$ _________________________ Your mother's a welder!
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#327095 - 01/02/08 07:19 AM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: karpkisser]
lancj1 lancj1 FW Top Poster Registered: 24/08/00 Posts: 6078	Originally Posted By: karpkisser The 30 came out again two Sundays ago a good 300 meters away around the corner from where I was. Lancj1….your drop offs seem a bit light, a bit of weight is needed. What do you think mate ????? work a treat, never had a problem _________________________ "The Champions League, as a lottery competition, is no judge of quality", Selman, P. 2007
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#327128 - 01/02/08 06:37 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: lancj1]
karpkisser karpkisser Outstanding FW Member Registered: 22/04/02 Posts: 517 Loc: Walthamstow, London	Good point about jacks, I can see them being selective. Think I have used jacks as baits only two times (going back to 1984 when I got the predator bug). Never really had a source or felt the need to get one. What size do you use? Anybody else use them? People are scoring with small baits, thinking about it most of my takes have come to large spoons fished high and fast trying to imitate small fish in the surface layers. Nothing new to write about in piking ? Agreed it’s different to fishing for mudsuckers, being less technical rig/bait wise. I have just flicked through my old bible, The Pike Anglers Manual (1987), so much has changed. Lancj1..I’ve never used such light drop off’s so I could be wrong but my argument would be that a bit of weight would improve indication if you get a drop back. _________________________ James M
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#327158 - 02/02/08 02:38 AM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: karpkisser]
Filthy_Animal Filthy_Animal Star FW Member Registered: 03/09/03 Posts: 1418 Loc: Polar bear country	I think I've only used jacks once as other baits were scoring well so didn't need to bother really, although I have had mates use them up to about 2lb and reckon they are the thing to use in waters where you can't get through the small pike to the few decent ones where silver fish are in low numbers. I reckon I'd try the big baits still to try and keep the jacks off it on at least one rod, but also fish small baits if that is what is working on other rods. Also maybe fish small baits popped up, float paternostered or drifeted if they are taking predominantly in the surface layers. Maybe a huge jerkbait may score too. In piking I think the main thing that has changed is the technology rather than methods. We now have more efficient tackle and don't have to make as much, I think ET (the original) can take most of the credit for that. There is a whole new range of US imported/influenced lure gear but when it comes to bait fishing it's still the same. My old Rickards and Webb book from 1972 (I think) is still very relevant when it comes to behaviour and methods, most modernbooks such as Nev's just being updated versions of that key book. I think the most modern pike book I have is the PAC's '2000 and Beyond' that I bought after a bit of a lay off from piking and really when you get down to it there's nowt new in it apart from the fancy lures. If you want heavier drop offs they are so easy to make, I posted pics of the ones I use a couple of years ago here drop off indicator heads . They weigh about an ounce/ounce and a half I think and show drop back great. Very easy to make and cheap to knock 3 or more up. _________________________ Your mother's a welder!
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#327347 - 04/02/08 08:21 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: Filthy_Animal]
Fluke Fluke Outstanding FW Member Registered: 01/05/06 Posts: 571 Loc: Cheshire	Fish float ledeger with a self locking float and your line looped in an elastic band with the bail arm open. If you get a take the float will bob and if the fish runs the line will pull from the band without resistnce. Strike within 5 seconds of indication. This method works if you are on your rods and alert.
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#327423 - 06/02/08 07:48 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: Fluke]
karpkisser karpkisser Outstanding FW Member Registered: 22/04/02 Posts: 517 Loc: Walthamstow, London	Now you have reminded me I do remember that conversation…….nice work on the drop offs. 2lb pike as a bait = dropped run [img]http://forum.fishingwarehouse.co.uk/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/1970/ppuser/2199/sl/k[/img] Methods have changed and become more pike friendly. Uptraces now used a lot more, thank God. Also people are hitting runs a lot quicker. Fluke……in my opinion a line clip gives much better indication. I was thinking about a scenario like lancj described earlier at Loch Maben. _________________________ James M
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#327424 - 06/02/08 07:49 PM Re: 34lb pike,baitrunners and bobbins [Re: karpkisser]
karpkisser karpkisser Outstanding FW Member Registered: 22/04/02 Posts: 517 Loc: Walthamstow, London	oh well, the image did not come up. _________________________ James M
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