Hi All,

Following on from previous lively debate on the subject here is some further evidence to support Raf Lee's argument



Spot the fleshy bit on the floor of the oral cavity of this January Colne Valley 30. Answers on a postcard please.....

Bspit

ps, we may have to wait for the close up until North Western big fish star Andy Jack returns from his weekend on the water, reports just in suggest he's had a right result!

Mark, your picture isn't showing for some reason. Is the link correct?

Is this the pic Mark?
I had to rummage around Andy`s site to find it.

My pond fish have this and they aint seen a hook!got a feeling that maybe this part of the mouth gets the odd hook and looking at that piccy shows no mouth damage whatsoever!does this fish get caught rarely or has it bit imported?

Well thanks for that Mark, all those doubters - you know who you are !!!!!!

this is conclusive proof that carp do indeed have tongues !!!

Also going on from this when a fish takes in an object it rests the object on that part of its mouth - the tongue and the roof of its mouth and tests it you might say, if your getting hookholds in the bottom of the lip then your rigs are working like they should be, but if like a lot of you i suspect you are catching the fish with the hook in the side of the scissors as i call it then it is by pure chance that you have caught that fish...

Carpynik - this is as true blue english fish as you are likely to see anywhere in this country !!!!! take it from me..

Well i'll be most interested to see what anyone has to say on this subject, i feel it could run and run !!!!

Sensible answers and questions only please...


RAFLEE

Can someone fill me in on this one?

I can't find the thread which exposes doubters to this theory/fact, even though I have only been away from the forums for a week.

What's the word?

Axe

RAF...
That's not a tongue, it's a cleft palate... fancy you, a carp god not recognising that!!

Carpynik,

sorry mate I only fish for real ones, I said Colne Valley not Loire Valley ! I am priveleged to be able to fish a quiet syndicate water where the fish are not molested by hoards of incompetant anglers, many of the fish we catch including the old ones are in perfect condition - long may it continue !

The fish has been caught by me twice, by Pete B and Frank Larner in the two seasons I've been fishing the water, it is not a fish that was stocked during the current tenure (5yrs) and there are no records of stockings from the previous tenure. We look after them and they are repaying us by stacking on weight and providing us with excellent sport, that's what it's all about wouldn't you agree ?

I started the thread about Carp Tongues, I think it's a sad reflection on our sport when a decent sized fish is classified an import just because it's in good nick, in fact it's a shite state of affairs !

Bspit BCSG & ECHO

Hi Kev,

That's it mate, clearly showing a tongue of some description, I can't find any reference to tongues in any of my papers or books but I am convinced if it's there it's there for a reason - can anyone out there help on this ?

I'm assuming that Raf Lee is correct in stating that it's there to help trap food items against the roof of the mouth which is covered in taste receptors it may also have a high concentration of them, but it would be interesting to establish it's precise function, someone must have a paper or journal giving details.

Bspit

Ah well...glad I asked!!