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#81805 - 27/02/02 10:22 PM Is the writing on the wall?
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So the Labour party/government have decided to ban all hunting with dogs, and are quite prepared to push new laws through parliment. so is the writing on the wall, is this the first nail in the lid for fishing? we shall have to wait and see, but for how long should we wait, surely now is the time to join together all the sides of our sport and start getting ready to fight for our survival. We should be buying our own waters, and lobbying our MP's before it is too late, or maybe that time has already come.

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#81806 - 28/02/02 01:26 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
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IT WAS SAID TIME AGO AND MANY TIMES BUT YOU KNOW YOU ELECTED THEM THIS IS NEW LABOUR THEY SAID, DIDNT ANYONE TAKE ANY NOTICE CHRIST THEY HAVE JUST PROVED IT WITH OUR SO CALLED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND I MAY BE WRONG BUT ENVIRAMENT MINISTER ASWELL CHRIST SAKE WE PUT THESE PEOPLE IN POWER AND THEY LIE THEN TRY AND DO SOMETHING LIKE BAN FOX HUNTING TO TAKE THE HEAT OF THAT TWAT BIERS, I MEAN THESE POEPLE ARE RUNNING OUR COUNTRY ITS RIDICULOUSE WHAT I FIND THE FUNNIEST IS THAT THEY CALL THERE SELF THE POEPLE PARTY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I WOULDNT GIVE THEM A KNEE SUPPORT LET ALONE MY UNWAVERING SUPPORT.

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#81807 - 28/02/02 02:05 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
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Nicely put I didn't vote for the left wing communie running dog labour tossers either.
But enough dumb ducks did(sorry about the spelling don't want to be censored)
Now the townie mentallity of duck the countryside it smells and things get killed "ough look away mumsie that big bird has got a rabbit in its mouths" coming through, they ducked up handling foot and mouth now political activits with loads of money and big mouths are ducking up some forms of hunting.

Why cannot they leave things they don't understand and get on with what they are good at, stealth taxs, spin, etc.

In answer to the Orginal Question Yes angling will be next

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#81808 - 28/02/02 02:25 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
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I firmly believe that the countryside alliance has used the angling fraternity to stop its own barbaric sport being banned. And it has failed!

The facts are that fox hunting is cruel. Fishing is not.

Fox hunting has hardly any followers... .fishing is the biggest participation sport in the world.

Fox hunters like to make out that fishing is next and a few "gullible" anglers will fall for it but its a load of rubbish.

I was watching tight lines on sky the other day and the head of the NFA was on there and he said there was NO WAY the government would ban fishing and in fact they were actually putting money into getting young people into fishing. So there you go.

I dont care what anyone says... I will never agree with hunting. And before anyone says... oi towney you dont know what you are talking about.

I live in the countryside, my in-laws are all farmers, my wife and her family have hunted since they were kids and I have heard ALL their answers as to why its not cruel... and they are all rubbish.


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#81809 - 28/02/02 02:45 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
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Certainly agree that Labour are an absolute joke.
I have no doubt that Tony Blair will go down in history as one of the most pathetic Prime Ministers that this country has ever produced.
If supporting Hunting got Labour a few more votes at the next election you would see the quickest U-turn possible on their policy.

Fishing is the sort of thing that this or any government should support, and encourage youngsters to try it.
Perhaps if some of the mindless louts hanging around on street corners making a damned nuisance of themselves tried fishing, they may just change for the better.
Show them a bit of nature, show them how to respect nature and their surroundings and they might just start showing respect to the human race

Miller.

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#81810 - 28/02/02 02:47 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
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Yoda...If hunting with dogs is banned within the UK it will be a Parliamentary
decision,not the Labour Party/Governments. Its called a Democracy.

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#81811 - 28/02/02 02:59 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
miller Offline
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Very true Miasma.
But Labour have a big majority in the current parliament, and the Labour Whips will make sure that their members vote how they want them to.
I remember not so long ago when labour members who either abstained or voted against the government were hauled before Tony Blair for a dressing down. They voted with the government at the next vote.
Doesn't sound quite so democratic then, does it.

Miller.

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#81812 - 28/02/02 03:05 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
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Miller....it does when its a free vote...

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#81813 - 28/02/02 03:14 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
Alan Roe Offline
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Miasma it may well be a parliamentary decision. However this should not be confused in any way with the concept of democracy.
The current administration was elected on a first past the post system which means that though they won vastly more people voted against them than for them in reality.
Equally the turnout at the last election was the lowest ever, only a fraction of those allowed to vote did so this measn that despite a large patliamentary majority the present government does not have a strong mandate from the people it purports to represent.

The late Lord Hailsham's summing up of our system of government as an "Elective Dictatorship" has never rung truer than it does now.

Though I am not a supporter of fox hunting I am also not stupid enough to belive that as an angler I am regarded as in any way morally superior than someone who does support hunting by the antis.

In the eyes of the antis, anglers are regaded as scum in just the same way as are the hunters, do not for one moment belive that you are seen as any different, they hate you just as much and as soon as the hunting issue is dealt with they will come afer you.

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#81814 - 28/02/02 03:15 PM Re: Is the writing on the wall?
miller Offline
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As Jim Royal would say......

Free Vote my AR*E!!!

I bet you believe in fairies....

Miller.

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