No not quite a little side line in brock breeding that I have going on......

A shame when I see the amount of dead ones on the roads around me that I dont have a captive breeding programme going on in my back shed. Considering they are a protected species its amazing how many people dont seem to bother about having them splattered across the front of their vectras.

But Im rambling....

Has anyone purchased any of the bits and bobs from Badgers, Im looking for a quick bivvy for those roving sessions and dont mind the look of thiers. A hell of a lot cheaper than the Nashy versions..

Feedback appreciated.

ditto with regard to thier stainless,

Badger based in Grimsby and their is another outfit in Marshchapel,Lincs.
From what i`ve heard from local dealers (no names here) it`s foreign made bulk imported stuff.
BUT then so is some of the brand named stuff (look for made in China on some of the Fox gear-luggage wise).
I wouldn`t say no to having a look at some of the gear living localish but it`s strictly no visitors which is kind of unsettling.

Badger stuff, looks okay doesnt it, Im going to get purchase a lookalike evolution brolly, I will let you know how long it lasts, still at 38 quid its a bit cheaper than the fox.
apparantly the original badger logo had a badger with a fox in its mouth?Food for thought?

Yes, it must all be copied and imported from the Orient, Kev.
What's left of the British tackle industry...?
And all those jobs...?
We all want cheap tackle, but sometimes should we not think beyond ourselves short-term and consider the impact this has on the UK industry and economy?
The more prices are forced down....the more the tackle trade suffers, especially the bloke who is trying to earn a living in the local tackle shop....hence, the number of shops going under...
off your soapbox, Selman!

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Oh...am I missing something...

Paul.

Soap boxes, You aint heard nothing yet...as they say

I apologise for my reply, because it may just upset the applecart, here before I carry on.

I am really struggling to find the right words....Honestly. No jokes here.

Industry and economy? HA!

Quote "The more prices are forced down....the more the tackle trade suffers, especially the bloke who is trying to earn a living in the local tackle shop....hence, the number of shops going under..."

I can only talk from my personal point of view (dire)

What about the public (me) that struggles to pay the going rate for overpriced goods here in our 'Great Britain' I do not personaly see what is so Great about it, but maybe that is just me.

The blokes that are trying to earn a living, are earning it off my back and many others too. They're not the only industry that is going down then toilet, mine happens to be one too! but who gives a toss?

Surely business is business. And the businesses that survive are those ones that compete. ie quality/cost.

I am the first person, believe it or not, to buy British if I can, but surely businesses must survive on merit and not compassion.

Yes I am skint. Its a fact. Plus I have been involved in a Computer business in the past that failed. Why? Because it could not compete. The reason why is because the owner did not/could not supply the goods/deals that the competitors could.

Please do not flame me for this (passionate) post. As Paul calls; 'Soap Box'

Job...did someone mention job?

Axe.

By the way. The Computer business owner was my own dear Brother.

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Good for you axe The cost of gear is shocking I know try buying all your stuff on a pension

Im right with you axe on this one
good on ya

And so say all of us Axe. Prices on gear on way too high. You only have to look at clothing, rucksacks etc. you can get from camping shops and army stores and the like to realise were being ripped off as carp anglers.
I know that some gear is a lot cheaper now in comparison with a few years ago, but this cheaper gear is generally cheaper quality too. I used to have a Nashy holdall and Nashy rucky that lasted me for years and years, when I looked at the new T***l Pr*******n one its garbage, and as for the material on those Tr****r rucksacks, a pile of pants !
Lets be knowing from anyone who's seen/used the Badger gear how good it is, cos it's my guess its as good as most of the other shite on the market today.

Neil

Keep your hair on Axe!!!!
Let's get it straight...all gear produced by all the major companies in the UK today such as luggage, is made in China. Everyone goes over there to get stuff manufactured because labour costs are very much cheaper - sweatshops etc.
This is all very well because it lowers the cost of goods initially for the carp angler. But the problem then becomes that the market is awash with cheap luggage etc, which companies are then struggling to sell. Ask anyone that works in the tackle trade and they'll tell you this, like my mate Neil Smith. Profit margins are squeezed, until there's no profit and then the ordinary tackle shops close leaving only the big boys who can volume sell surviving. Small tackle shops are labour intensive compared to
big ones. The result is more having to rely on state benefits, unemployment etc, which then costs us more through taxes.
I'm not suggesting that people buy British (I did not suggest this above) because this is naive and foolish. People will go for best product at the cheapest price. However, I am saying that in the medium/longer term it does not make sense to have an industry based on cheap imports. Any industry - not just tackle. You can't base an economy on cheap imports or your economy just goes into terminal decline.
The other side of the coin you are all forgetting is the appalling low levels of wages/salaries in this country compared to other countries, which is why you tend to 'kick off' about hard earned money etc.
Average earnings in the UK are way below European neighbours such as Germany, Holland, Scandinavia, even France. Pensions are the lowest in Europe. Bri's pension is a scandal.
However, the latter won't improve if we continue to wind down our manufacturing industries, and become reliant on cheap foreign imports.
Sorry if that seems like an economics lesson folks, but I'm just trying to point out the wider picture as it is.
I could just say I don't give a toss anyway because I don't pay for my tackle and kit. But I do care about the sort of economy and society (including the angling trade) my son is going to have to try to survive in and I am not an 'I'm alright Jack' type bloke.

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