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#57447 - 07/09/00 07:07 PM
Pursuits or Pursue?
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Registered: 15/08/00
Posts: 4817
Loc: S. Yorks - England
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Dear all you Rod Guru's. My mate has set his mind on getting 3 Nashy 2 and 3/4lb, 12 foot Pursuits. Myself, I am also after getting 3 errrrm, long range rods at some stage. We have discussed what we know (very little) about the rods on the market these days. I am a litle more frugal than him, or should I say skinter than him. So this discussion arose about the cost etc of said rods. He is quite prepared to pay that sort of money for three rods so I guess the question is; How 'good' are these rods compared to an equivalently priced alternative? Is one paying for the name? Are there equally (or better) choices out there for the same money? We have read that these are great rods, and that in my mind is not up for debate. Unless you know different... I understand there is different gradings of Carbon etc, out there, that is why I am not asking for a cheaper alternative/option. He has the money, lets help him spend it  Regards Axeman.
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#57450 - 08/09/00 05:04 AM
Re: Pursuits or Pursue?
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Registered: 30/06/00
Posts: 1834
Loc: Worldwide Carper
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Have a look at the Fox range, they are good rods. I agree with Paul on the Daiwas, a very good choice. I personally have blanks in 12' 4ib TC made for me by Steve Harrison, whipped up by Vic Gibson, titanium Fuji's. They are, without a doubt, the most awesome rods I have ever had the pleasure to hold. I wrote a piece a couple of years back in Carpworld called 'In Pursuit of Excellence' with all the details from Harrison on how he'd made 'em, plus Vic on the whipping pattern, ringing et cetera. These rods were, errrr, serious amounts of cash and one offs. So I'm bragging really !!! At Essex Angling they have a range, based on Harrison blanks, called 'Eurocarp'. They are very good rods, especially the 12' 3lb TC and they will cast a lead further than you need !! What ever happened to the rods with no rings ?? Shimano I think, I went to their trade show and had a cast with them. Only an OK, but personallyu could never see the idea catching on. Big in Japan I hear, any ideas ?? Cheers Chris Woodrow
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#57453 - 08/09/00 08:57 AM
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Registered: 14/08/00
Posts: 24
Loc: Langley, Berkshire, England
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Don't ignore the 2nd hand option either If you're 'a bit skint'
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#57454 - 08/09/00 09:08 AM
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Registered: 13/06/00
Posts: 28
Loc: Yorkshire
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Have to agree with Paul here, I invested in some 3.5lb infinity x's at the start of the season and I have to say - I'm very impressed!
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#57456 - 08/09/00 09:42 AM
Re: Pursuits or Pursue?
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Registered: 15/08/00
Posts: 4817
Loc: S. Yorks - England
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Thanks chaps..but, I did fail to say in the first question, that the major concern is not neccesarily the distance casting. That comes with a rod of this nature. Its really the handling (action) in the margins as well that is up for question. Regards Axeman.
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#57458 - 08/09/00 10:56 AM
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Registered: 31/07/00
Posts: 1189
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Tackle Box made Daiwa Amorphous 2.75tc 12ft. Best rods i have ever used... Used to have 13ft 3lb Armalites.. Very good as well.
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#57462 - 08/09/00 06:38 PM
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Registered: 07/09/00
Posts: 26
Loc: London, England
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For a slightly cheaper alternative I cannot speak highly enough of the Daiwa Dictator Z range, either the LD (Long Distance) or the standard. I personally prefer the Mark1 standard. A little tough to get hold of but I am sure if you shop aroung the will be set sitting around at a good price.
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#57463 - 10/09/00 12:20 AM
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Registered: 24/08/00
Posts: 6483
Loc: St Helens and Wirral
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I have been looking at upgrading. I use Harrisons, I have two sets. They are a bit bendy, and I agree with the points made. I popped up to North West Angling in Wigan, the best waggling shop around ! The rods are set up upstairs in a old church, and you can give em all a good shake about - not fishing, this, I know. On waggling the 13ft 2/34 Nash, what struck me was that it was as bendy as its Harrison Counterpart- it looks lovely, mind. The Century NG 2/34 was bendy too, as was the Hutchy Dreammaker. Three rods stood out as "stiff", the Diawas, The Team Hutchinsons(cheaper than the dreammaker) and the Shimano Bugs. I realise that a lead or carp on the end may invalidate my waggling test ! Oh, and if your one of the "Divas" mentioned in another post, just send for the Dreammakers - if only St Helens women were as good to look at !!
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#57465 - 09/09/00 08:14 PM
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Registered: 09/06/01
Posts: 56
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As someone else has already mentioned, why buy new unless you're : a) a tackle consultant, b) so rich you don't care c) the owner of a tackle shop d) a complete tackle tart. £100 per rod can buy you some serious gear, secondhand. I bought some Daiwa Kevin Nash Whisker Kevlar a few years back for £70 each. 13 foot 2.5 test. These rods are so good the trouble is, I can't actually get any better without spending a fortune.
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#57466 - 09/09/00 08:29 PM
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Registered: 09/09/00
Posts: 22
Loc: BARNSLEY S,YORKS
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[STUMPS HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD SECOND HAND ARMALITES VERY CHEEP AND A GREAT ROD MY OWN ARE 13FT 4LB REBUILT BY ALLAN YOUNG THEY,VE BEEN USED AND ABUSED BUT NEVER LET ME DOWN (BIT LIKE THE WIFE)QUOTE]Originally posted by Axeman: Dear all you Rod Guru's.My mate has set his mind on getting 3 Nashy 2 and 3/4lb, 12 foot Pursuits. Myself, I am also after getting 3 errrrm, long range rods at some stage. We have discussed what we know (very little) about the rods on the market these days. I am a litle more frugal than him, or should I say skinter than him. So this discussion arose about the cost etc of said rods. He is quite prepared to pay that sort of money for three rods so I guess the question is; How 'good' are these rods compared to an equivalently priced alternative? Is one paying for the name? Are there equally (or better) choices out there for the same money? We have read that these are great rods, and that in my mind is not up for debate. Unless you know different... I understand there is different gradings of Carbon etc, out there, that is why I am not asking for a cheaper alternative/option. He has the money, lets help him spend it  Regards Axeman.[/QUOTE]
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#57467 - 09/09/00 08:43 PM
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Registered: 15/08/00
Posts: 4817
Loc: S. Yorks - England
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Dear Kev and Cyprio. Kev, should have read my first post, and took it in properly. " He is quite prepared to pay that sort of money for three rods" and "I understand there is different gradings of Carbon etc, out there, that is why I am not asking for a cheaper alternative/option." Cyprio, b) so rich you don't care. (relatively to the average guy on the street) He is going to have internet access soon so dont anyone tell him I said that will you?  Regards Axeman.
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#57468 - 09/09/00 11:03 PM
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Registered: 09/06/01
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Axeman, Tell him to have a look at the new Grey's F1- if you're in that market these are truly stunning rods!
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#57471 - 10/09/00 07:53 PM
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