being pretty new to carping i was wondering which rig you think has been most sucessful for you,there are that many paterns out there leaving me somewhat confussed(braid,mono,hooks,stiff rigs etc)
so if you could help with your views it would be much appreciated cheers

Hmmm, one good one I used once and it served me well for the seasons that I used it was, I will no doubt get some stick for this.

Hooklink details:

Two lengths of three 3lb BS line about 10 to 12 inches, size ten hook, half inch hair made from 1 lb BS line.

If you try the above and believe me it does work PLEASE only use in open water no snags.

Chris S

Kryston`s Snakeskin/bite is wonderful stuff giving you the choice of stiff,combi,supple set ups.
Used with flexi ring swivels and the dissolving foam pellets it can be cast without probelms and these days my old helicopter setups are largely left untouched.
My remaining stash of braid is currently being used as bait tie/looped hairs.
As for mono,well i know it works for some but some of the rigs i`ve seen tied up do look more at home for beachcasting than carping.

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Originally posted by Kevin Babij:
Kryston`s Snakeskin/bite is wonderful stuff giving you the choice of stiff,combi,supple set ups.
Used with flexi ring swivels and the dissolving foam pellets it can be cast without probelms and these days my old helicopter setups are largely left untouched.
My remaining stash of braid is currently being used as bait tie/looped hairs.
As for mono,well i know it works for some but some of the rigs i`ve seen tied up do look more at home for beachcasting than carping.

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If the nylon rigs you have seen tied look more at home for beach casting then who ever made them must be making them wrong, I have caught far more carp on bottom baits on nylon than braid, the only times I have used braid to any great extent was/is for popups but only becuase it gave the presentation that I wanted, if it had`nt then I would have used nylon.

I tell you a little story about braid and nylon, many years ago when braid was first used for hooklengths I was fishing a club water that I belonged to at the time where you could go and catch carp with not many problems but you could blank there. I used braided hooklengths there on several occasions and caught bugger all. Then one day whilst sitting blanking in came one rod and I cut of the braided hooklength and tied on a nylon one, the next fews hours I started getting runs again but only on the nylon.

Another story of similar nature I found the carp on one of the London res`s and they stayed in the same spot feeding for a week I went back everyday and caught carp everday, another couple of chaps also got onto the fish but could not get the runs that I was getting. This was one of the waters where I fished the hooklength described above in the other post, yup have you guessed it they where using braided hooklengths. I have no explanation for this only in the fact that the nylon I suppose could make it more difficult for the fish to get rid of but it was only two lengths of 3lb BS line and very supple with a size ten hook.

Chris S

Can anyone recommend any decent mono hooklinks in terms of brands.

Also what about flourocarbon hooklinks e.g. Korda IQ and Casper. Which circumstances would these best be used in ?

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May your catches number the pints you sink, and their sizes rival those of the breakfasts you eat.

Hi all, I've only just moved onto flouro's and have tried the Korda IQ, Vanish from Berkley and Ghoul from C'R'U.
I've found the Vanish to be more supple then the IQ.
The Vanish is supple enough for the hook to turn easily, but not too supple that it tangles.
I use the the IQ for stiff rigs.
The ghoul is ok, but the memory on it is a nightmare.
I must confess to being a braid fan, but hate not knowing whether it's tangled or not on a big chuck.
For margin and close in I will use braid, a nice soft braid like 18lb E.S.P sinklink or 15lb Kryston silkworm.
All the best,
Gaffer.

Like Kevin, I find Snakebite fulfills all my needs whether using pop-ups or bottom baits. It is so adaptable and flexible. The new brown version which I have reviewed in the review section(coming very soon) is excellent. 15lb b.s. for open water (breaks at 20lb plus) and 25lb for snag/weed fishing. I fish this to a shrink tubed line-aligner to a number four hook usually.
I'm not as keen on Snakeskin.

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Chris S,
Last issue of Carp Fisher or was it Advanced Carp Fishing showed a hinged mono set up with more rings on it than a gipsy fortune teller!
The rig that has done the business for you i think is about as supple as you will come across for mono rigs,i was really thinking of the 15-20lb stiff set-ups in my earlier reply which i`ve struggled with locally.
Incidentally in the past Hawser,superglue,polycement and more recently Kryston`s Bondage have been successfully used with braid from the swivel upto 10-25mm from the hook with both bottom & pop-ups.
It`s that last little bit of suppleness in the hooklength that attracts me (and the odd fish).
This topic has set my mind thinking back to when multistrand came out and how successful it was for many who could be bothered with it,both on it`s own and as combilinks with silkworm/dacron/cortland,looks like we have come full circle again on some waters.

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After reading about fluorocarbon lines on C**p.Net, I bought a spool of 15lb b.s. Invisiline, (I couldn't find any Vanish), to try on hook lengths. Like others, I found the memory to be a real problem, in fact it is almost impossible to eradicate the coils caused by the spool. It is also very stiff, and being a bit of a killjoy, I have great problems with the purported mechanical advantages of stiff rigs anyway. I have also been reading new concerns about the persistence of fluorocarbons in the environment, and how they are already being measured in human tissue. I'm not suggesting that this presents any realistic chance of personal damage, unless you eat great quantities of the stuff. It might make you invisible in water though.

By the way W.W. Are you from the Warcop that is just outside Skelmersdale? My auntie Gwen had a sweet shop there, just off the High Street. You must know my uncle Bill, who like you, also plays for the local football team, Warcop Wanderers.

alright peter
the name warcop wanderer comes from the little village where i live in cumbria(warcop)i used to live in skelmersdale for 20 years so i guess its a small world after all

Warcop.,......Now thats a name that I recollect withn being very cold, wet, tired............Dressed up in cammo gear and believe it or not, not a fishing rod in sight.

Ahhhh the good old days when I used to run around firing a big gun and getting screamed at by the Seargent Major shooting targets on the range that Im sure is up that way....

At least all of my old army gear is now of some use to me in my bivvy for sleeping and fishing in.

As for rigs, Im having great success at the moment with about 5 inches of lead core attacted to a stainless ring with about 1.5 to 2 inches of Super Nova to a size 8 penetrator 2. I found that silkworm (is that the black and white braid) tended to shrink when steam was applied to shrink tube, resulting in the white strands standing out from the black strands.

As for Snake bite, I always had problems with strands of it coming away from the eye of the hook due to the single fibres being too thin for the "closed eye" of the hook.

lancs lad i live about 300 yards from the camp and yes when the big guns fire my windows rattle ,there a good supply for old army gear up here,so needless to say thats what keeps me warm in my bivvy too,and it's still wet and very cold in the winter,but the ale in the local is alot better now

Well Warcop, it seems I stitched myself up in grand style. I thought you were someone with sci-fi comic/Sylvester Stallone fantasies, but my gentle urine extraction has blown back all over me. I must confess that I had to put Warcop into a search engine to find out if there really is such a place. I had to laugh though.

never mind peter we all do it sometimes,i guess it was just your time !