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#43965 - 27/01/02 09:12 PM baitboats
zombiewoof Offline
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anyone got any views on baitboats?
in my view the use of these devices is ruining one of my local waters for those of us who catch carp in a more conventional and creditable manner.the problem is that you can only fish one bank of the lake, but by good bait application the fish could be persuaded to come accross to feed. however, many moor unscrupilous anglers? are taking bait and their rigs 300 yards to the safe area giving the fish no reason to visit the near bank were normal anglers can fish for them.

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#43966 - 27/01/02 09:38 PM Re: baitboats
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Hello mate, if you use the SEARCH facility at the top of the page, you will find some good debates on the use and moral's of the baitboat.

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#43967 - 27/01/02 09:41 PM Re: baitboats
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Registered: 27/11/00
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Loc: England
Baitboats:-
a means of presenting a rig/bait to an area previously out of bounds to all anglers fishing the traditional way,or another interpretation,a means of fishing for otherwise totally crap anglers unable to catch by the more traditional methods.
Bait boats should be banned nationally on all waters, if you want a boat to play with then go and join your local model boat club.

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#43968 - 27/01/02 10:01 PM Re: baitboats
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a means of fishing for otherwise totally crap anglers unable to catch by the more traditional methods.

Not taking any sides on this one but having suffered myself last year from effects of others using RCB`s:-
If the above statement by carpcatcher is true why is it that many of the names profess to using them or row boats.


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#43969 - 27/01/02 10:31 PM Re: baitboats
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Registered: 23/11/01
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Loc: Bedfordshire
Here we go again, same old chesnut, same old arguments.

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#43970 - 27/01/02 10:41 PM Re: baitboats
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Here we go again, same old chesnut, same old arguments. the fact of the matter is, people have used boats for fishing, for as long as there have been boats,which is probably longer than they have used rods! as tecnology changes so do the methods used to catch fish, the hair rig, bite alarms, bait runners, bed chairs, bivvys etc. of course we could all live in the past with none of the new? technology but who really wants that? so live and let live. life is to short for all the bickering.
Spring will be here soon, the carps will be on the munch, just get out there and enjoy what you do, and don't worry about what others are doing. That is why they call it fishing, if you caught all the time it would be called catching

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#43971 - 27/01/02 11:51 PM Re: baitboats
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Bob,
I dont worry about what other people are doing, but when they drop a rig and bait over mine and they are fishing 200 yds or so away it does tend to spoil the day somewhat.

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#43972 - 28/01/02 12:14 AM Re: baitboats
Mr Backers Offline
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Registered: 05/06/01
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Loc: Berkshire
Common sense and discretion go a long way. Unfortunately many of the lads I see fishing left that quality in the garage.

If you can cast their then by all means use a boat. You can spod it (Noisey), yes I know some fish are attracted to it,but not at my local, but if bait boats were £5 each, every tom, dick and harry would have one.

Well maybe!


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#43973 - 28/01/02 12:31 AM Re: baitboats
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ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND Well you get what i meen

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#43974 - 28/01/02 05:12 AM Re: baitboats
Paulf Offline
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Registered: 22/11/01
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Loc: California
If the bait boat isn't going in your swim I don't see why it would bother you.As for taking the bait 300 yds to the safe area, after time this area won't be safe no more.

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#43975 - 28/01/02 06:22 AM Re: baitboats
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yeah but they are a luaghable bit of kit really, why can't people be happy just fishing the way they were intended to fish. Like dont these geezas get the astetics of carping you a peaceful lake and a battle with fish, where does a plastic remote control boat play a part. If it were up to me i would ban them all and have done with it, its only a personal view but can anyone tell me what good they do angling as a whole apart from gee up a few coots.

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#43976 - 28/01/02 11:11 AM Re: baitboats
carpmanchris! Offline
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BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BORING!!!!!!!!!!!

We've been here before, quite recently. Come on Moderators, can't we do something??


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#43977 - 28/01/02 11:57 AM Re: baitboats
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your saying about taking the boat 300yrds to a safe zone to catch the fish......good on them,they will catch fish for a bit but then the fish will soon see danger in that area and move out of it to other areas which in trun will make them move closer to the fishable bank and the moaners will start to catch the fish under there feet but you will not get any credit for that as the boat is a cheating way to catch fish. bit like the bite alarm is and the hair rig but all the people that moaned about them soon got onto them when there catch rate suffered.

i have seen it all before when useing my boat and the way around it is to let the guys that are moaning use your boat, thay soon change there mind trust me on that one.


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#43978 - 29/01/02 12:29 AM Re: baitboats
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I dont really have a problem with bait boats as long as they used safely, sensibly and dont annoy others fishing.
Theres a mere Ive fished in Cheshire which has basically turned into a boat water in the last 12 months ,nothing has been caught from a casted lead since October, things will change again and they come out closer in again, but until then, what do you do? - when in rome!!!
I heard also someone is hiring boats out on this place £3 a day - nice little earner if you ask me!!

cheers

STEZ


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#43979 - 29/01/02 12:33 AM Re: baitboats
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As we are not here to decide what is boring or not, the best we can do is move this to the Bait, Rigs and Tackle forum.

It sounds like bivyman's boat needs a new rudder!

Axe


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#43980 - 30/01/02 09:34 PM Re: baitboats
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A LATE COMMENT ON YOUR BAIT BOAT QUESTION.IAM CURRENTLY FISHING A WATER WERE BAIT BOATS ARE THE NORM THE LAKE IS APPROX 25 ACRES AND 250YRDS WIDE MOST BAIT GOING OUT 150 TO 200 YRDS IN OPEN WATER.WITH SOME GOOD FISH COMMING TO THIS APPROACH MY IDEA WAS TO BAIT UP CLOSE IN AND DO THE OPPOSITE TO THE NORM.RESULTS SO FAR ARE MIRROR CARP OF 29LB/17LB AND 37LB 8OZ TO MY FISHING MATE. AND I ALSO USE A BAIT BOAT FOR DISTANCE WORK BUT TO DATE HAVE HAD ON FISH USING IT ON THIS LAKE BUT FIND IT INVALUBLE FOR BAITING UP.
AS FOR USING THE TRADITIONAL APPROACH I LOOK FOWARD TO SEEING YOU ON THE BANK USING YOUR SPLIT CANE RODS AND WASHING UP BOTTLE TOPS FOR INDICATORS. SEE YA SOON WOOLF BOY.


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#43981 - 30/01/02 09:42 PM Re: baitboats
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It appears that this topic has not remained 'moved' to the tackle forum.

So I will close it here because I know it is there.

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