hi, im looking for a protein mix/meal for adding to groundbait something cheap and effective, i know i could use ground pellets which i do sometimes but get plagued by bream! any ideas? thanks.

Cat or dog food either the dry stuff or the wet stuff out of a tin....

thanks paul sounds good

I've had good results adding fishmeal and calf milk replacer to groundbaits and stick mixes but they are a bit more pricey than dog food. A bit of belacan grated into the mix helps a bit too

hi i do use fishmeal and calf milk replacer but again bream, i pump belachan into my expanders in the summer great bait

How big are the Bream you are catching? I ask because bream feeding over your bait is not automatically a bad thing. Have you thought of running with the bream activity and trying alternative/bigger hook baits?

up until this cold spell last few days bream of around 5to6lb yes i could try bigger baits i suppose and see what happens thanks

I'd certainly be using geet big rock hard donkey chokers if bream (or eels) were a major problem.

our not even putting your rods out and wait for them to fook off lol

spread your bait more bream luv a easy feed !! if you want a good protein just go supermarket now they will be selling body building drinks cheap bash a heap of that in a 1KG mix

LOL in my defense there is not a lot you can do to deter 12lb bream. I did start to wade through them but several hours of catching them in monsoon conditions middle of the night and the white flag came out.

You know me Joe I catch em on my terms. If that means winding in so I can get a kip so be it. Rather be happy and blanking than miserable and catching.

It was for the best, you know as well as anybody what a grumpy fu*k I am if I am woken up.

Without coming across as a censored andy your words not mine lol running through them is running through them no matter the weather our time luv ye to bits xxx

The clues are in there you just have to read what I wrote properly.



It's relevant!




Not automatic, but it can be!




Trying as in finding out, i.e. if there is a hook bait they can't or don't want to pick up!


If the bream are 12lb and you know from experience that they will eat virtually anything you put out there, its pi**ing down in the middle of the night then in my book that constitutes a bad thing.


If you want to jump up and down all night getting pissed through catching bream that's your problem. Don't get pi**ed off with me just because I have got the balls to say to my self "do you know what, the need to catch really isn't strong enough to put myself through this" and then wind in and get a good nights sleep.

Its a marathon not a sprint, there is plenty of time to catch when I am not tired and getting soaked through.




Sorry mate no cigar on that point either, because you did