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#345307 - 09/01/10 05:29 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: Pete B]
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Carboxypeptidase beta has esterease properties... what does that mean?

Pete,
I can only presume that by producing more free acids,properly via a line of mind numbing reactions cry the outcome will be.. further formation of esters?? confused

Carboxypeptidases.. smile

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#345611 - 07/02/10 04:54 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: Trig]
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in this months improve your coarse fishing they use it to make a cheese paste and also with a bolie mix they say only use a small amount


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#345659 - 10/02/10 11:18 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: dannyboy245]
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'a small amount'

You've got to ask what a 'small amount' is.... funny or what.... thumbsup relative to a kilo...... thumbsup some people haven't a clue..... wall

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#345717 - 15/02/10 08:53 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: Trig]
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Horrible stuff eughhh dont spill it on your self evil stuff smell it for foookkkiiin weeks

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#346744 - 20/07/10 10:01 AM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: elleffsea]
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I bought a kilo of the stuff for around 8 quid around six years ago whilst I was still in the UK. I found it made absolutely no difference to any bait I was formulating winter or summer!

Pete is still nudging in exactly the same way he was 5 or 6 years ago! you have to have a place to start and then do the hard work yourself; the hard work involves you learning things and researching in such a way as to make things make sense to you yourself. Being told does not help things make sense nono

I am still dismayed by the fact that to some knowing why you do something bait wise and what that something consists of and why it works or does not work is not important to you. Why should always be the ultimate question.
Why bother to learn anything about fishing when you can go to the shop buy everything chuck it out and have a bivvy party!

Pete suggesting they use or even smell the devils dung was a little nasty grin
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#346752 - 20/07/10 10:45 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: ROTOFRYER]
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Roto.... nice to see you back again.... thumbsup

Devil's dung.... notworthy

Why can't people look further than the smell that goes up their (vastly inferior to a carp's receptors) nose to assess a bait's effectiveness.... wall I do feel that I,m banging my head against a very sturdy brick wall at times.. upset lol
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#346754 - 20/07/10 11:58 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: Pete B]
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It's getting worse for that though Pete with the way carp fishing has exploded. I think a lot of them just don't care as long as they catch and are out the house away from screaming kids and nagging wife. A lot also believe the absolute crap spouted in mags/on telly by people that know next to nowt, but because they are in a mag and are using so and so's gear/have their own company they must know what they are on about.

Being a science geek I like to know why, what and how but lack of spare time to research and test out things severely restricts me these days.
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#346761 - 21/07/10 11:46 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: Filthy_Animal]
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"Being a science geek I like to know why, what and how but lack of spare time to research and test out things severely restricts me these days"

There is very little science in understanding what a carp can detect.... it is all over the internet, a few chosen words and you have the answer.. and it has nothing to do with the sense of human smell... I am stating the obvious to you but speaking martian to most..... wall The magazines have a lot to answer for in terms of bait articles.. I have yet to read one that contains 'new' or sensible advice... most, if not all, are bait company biased..... and there's only three bait company heads that I wold trust.... smile notworthy
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#346762 - 21/07/10 11:59 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: Pete B]
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My personal magazine/advertising fave is 'high leakage'...baits aren't broken pipes! Even better when the 'leakage' is just a propylene glycol based flavour.
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#346781 - 22/07/10 10:20 PM Re: N-BUTYRIC ACID [Re: Filthy_Animal]
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High leakage is a load of crap spouted by people who know bugger all about simple physics, for anything to leech out, you need water in... that means the bait goes soft VERY quickly... anyone got a bait claimed to be high leakage that is still hard after 24 hours???

And your point Filthy about just what 'leaks' out is very very valid... thumbsup
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