It actually doesn't help... unless you know what a carp can detect...

"The reason I ask is I used it in a food bait and did pretty well on it"

...and you don't think that the 'food bait' had anything to do with it?

Lots of ingredients in baits are put forward as the next revolution in bait construction... only a carp cannot detect them... how is that particular ingredient going to attract when a carp cannot detect it or has very limited detection in that area??

I'm not trying to be obtuse, just questioning what is being spoon fed to the masses...

just questioning what is being spoon fed to the masses...

A couple more for the NBA Spoon..

When combined with alcohol produces an ester

In the past.. used as a trigger for Bromelain

"When combined with alcohol produces an ester"

And an ester,being merely another investigation trigger?

Bromelain.extracted from pineapple,in humans is used as a natural digetsive aid and anti-coagulant,its relevence or effectiveness in carp baits is to say the least,fairly low!

"Think fish".not Humans!!!!!

What pete is trying to get across,is that substances that are often hailed as super ingredients are often just investigation triggers,their attraction being either highly acidic or alkaline.Nothing more!

I have read postings like this over many years and they continue to baffle me time and time again.

I was blessed with taste buds, a sense of smell and a fairly complex brain to process all the information that comes with the above. Smells good, brain tells me to eat, tastes good = smile on face. An equally complex body processes it all and extracts what it needs and dumps the rest on waist line or out of the body as waste.

Carp are not blessed with the brain capacity to process all the information.

They are a truely wild animal and eat to survive. Pretty much end of. They cannot tell a carrot from a cake. They have no idea what a flavour is.

They find a food source and eat it because if they dont they will die.

It really is a fools folly to apply any form of human comparision to a carps diet and what it can detect.

kind regards Jeff

Or i suppose you can just listen to Jeff,makes sense really,pigs of the lake,usually the first to utilise ANY abundent food source.........

BUT..........

Given a lake where everything is being chucked at them jeff and nothing is getting caught,or very little,when they are relying on naturals and finding their food by aminos,thats when a bait constructed along those lines comes into its own!!!!! Happy new year mate!!!!


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1st up.. Happy New Year to all

its relevence or effectiveness in carp baits is to say the least,fairly low!

Interesting that..As it’s still included in a product... but I’m sure you can appreciate the relevance & thought behind it at the time

What pete is trying to get across,is that substances that are often hailed as super ingredients are often just investigation triggers,their attraction being either highly acidic or alkaline.Nothing more

I have pondered.. as some are highly Acidic or Alkaline if they have the ability to cause a hydrolysis of sorts ..Amongst other things... but the complexities of it are currently beyond my grasp & maybe achieved anyway by other means

Actually Dean in not a very good way, I was trying to back you, Pete and one or two others up fella.

appy new year to you as well buddy.

kind regards Jeff

Jeff,

Oh,and how is or was n.b.a used as a trigger for bromelain?......

Bromelain is classed as a proteolytic(digests proteins)a naturally occuring enzyme??????

Please explain mr moon???? Not trying to be funny,just need a relevent connection please?