A credible producer of quality pop ups said to me that it should only be used in a winter bait or pop - up(he used it in all his pop-ups),it's not a flavour or attractor but allows the bait to release it's properties at low water temps(due to it being a carbon acid ?), 1-2 drops per egg.

Why don't you try 2 pop-up mixes,one with and one without,bung it to 2 mates on the same winter water and don't tell them who has the Nba pop ups..there may be a trend.

1 Egg
5-10 ml ea flavour.
2ml clear sweetner.
level teaspoon betaine.
1-2 drops Nba.
Colour of your choice.
Richworth pop up mix.


j.

No worries fella,it tastes very sweet...I always try the taste of the bait in what in using...

Im touched if i'd be putting Nba on my tongue mate,black pepper oil's bad enough,i'll never do that again......say's he..reaching for the dropper.

j.

"I always try the taste of the bait in what in using"

Why??? What you taste and what a carp can detect are poles apart...

had some in my bait last season...jeese! makes me sick just thinking about using it

But do you feel it made a difference Timber????

didnt notice any change of activity in the water i was fishing with it ,tho fish are hard to come by in there at the best of times..i thought an unflavoured plain poultry protein meal and groundnut groundbait did the job better..they were certainly there for that

maybe it's time we look at 'attractors' from the baits perspective instead of the carp. In my opinion the bait in the water has 'to make sense'.

When a protein-rich bait is thrown into the lake, it is very unlikely to produce any Nba. It is a substance that is expected to 'sprout out off' vegetarian substances like rotting roots etc. Nothing to do with protein. Still loads of us are expecting it to work on a rich fishmeal bait. 'Fermentalism' would be a better approach. I use it on a low protein bait with fermented, cooked grain-paste as a binding base and am happy with my results.

Look at the bait gentlemen, not the carp. It'll eat anything that makes sense...

Only my opinion but .

I thought that the ph change around the manmade bait wether it be an acidic or alkalie change. Will trigger the same recepter signals in the same way that natural grub gives of a ph change ie (Replecating an amino signal).. I imagien again only my thoughts that in different lakes the different naturals will all give of different ph values or changes in the water. Hence some baits will work better than others?

right.