Right then,now i know this stuff stinks to high heaven and had the misfortune to spill some on my kitchen floor the other day,good job i aint got a mrs at home!!!

But was wondering,can you overdose on this stuff and what are the effective levels of inclusioin in say a pot of pop ups and does anyone know of any winning flavour combinations with this gear????

Regards,Dean

Attraction.
Would of thought a smart baitmaker would no what it was all about what with mixing ph's and enzymes and what not...?
quick glance.
I believe n butryic changes ph in bait. Making baits more acidic and (being soluble)gives of positive food signals that carp respond to such as the aminos givern of by inverterbrates.(natural carp grub). People say the more the acidic the more the signal but sometimes works the other way. Such as creams and the like being alkaline. People say there could be a perfect ph siganl to suit any givern lake. More bull censored....

Use the stinky but dont put to much in.imo...

It has a fairly weak acidic pH and contains no amino acid 'food signals'. How does that attract carp then?

[quote=carpy d4n] Attraction.
Would of thought a smart baitmaker would no what it was all about what with mixing ph's and enzymes and what not...?
quick glance.

Now ,not having used the substance in any form i was looking for a sensible starter level in pop ups.I did not ask for its ph or acidic note or your obvious sarcasm fella,Us bait makers dont know the ins and outs of every available substance in the bait world,its a learning curve! So im soooooooo sorry if i may of seemed a little Dense

As a starting point.

As high as 6 drops per egg in single hookbait popups (in combination with a flavour)

As low as 1 drop per egg as a background smell in a food bait.

Either way best to avoid human contact for a couple of days after making bait with this in.

Right now that I've basically become a UCN consultant, shall we say 5kg of enzyme for that titbit?

Thanks kipper,much appreciated,my fishing partner wants to experiment!!!!

Cheques in the post mate!!!

Baits work despite N-Butyric, not because of it... apart from pH differential to the water (and there are far more effective ones) what is there....

Dean
I would keep to low levels with N Butyric,Make some baits with different levels fella and let the fish show you... if you put a very small amount on to your tounge you will know that this is not to be over loaded .

Yes Pete,we know there are but little si wants to have a play so i said i would get the info to him!!!!!!

He reads too many magazines!!!!!!

Okay...you first