Skint mate.....but I am a fieldtester for Nutrabaits...

So whats the differance between egg albumin and lac albumin both do the same thing dont they?

Lactalbumen is highly digestable and nutritious and is derived from milk.....egg albumen less so and comes from eggs...

The 825 Alatal stuff from Fronterra NZ is the best i have used to date.

Highly digestable means diddly squat if the products of that digestive process are not in the correct proportions for a carp..

Pre-digested fishmeal, whoever says it is soluble? Soluble means the ability to dissolve in water..

MOST fishmeals do not contain the ideal amino acid requirements of carp, you need to supplement them, pre-digested ones are simply more available, they do not address nutritional requirements of carp, simply break down.

Pre-digested simply releases the peptide chains/amino content of the meal that is subject to the process... whether that is of benefit to a bait I am highly dubious as the same effect happens quite naturally on the lake bed.... and it's a bugger to roll a bait with a high proportion of Pre-digested....

No kidding sherlock????????

Miasma... your obtuse replies are highly amusing...

More headaches for us Andy LOL bit DEEP for me to understand to be honest


http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac50020a021

Pete,
By releasing the peptide chains/amino content of the meal do we achieve a greater attraction by having more bits advailable to ionize/attract or what ever they do? But by also braking down the meal or the egg wall & immersing it in water do we also lose nutrition/the correct proportions quicker as well.
It’s a question that has troubled my simple mind.. Is it a case of high attract at loss of nutrition or about as good a compromise as we can get between the 2 at present.

Excuse my simple mind…it’s haunted me for years

Hunter,
The best you can achieve is to break down a protein mix that caters for all amino requirements in a carp, you get attraction on the most basic level (they cannot ignore it) plus you get the perfect nutritional profile. This is VERY, VERY difficult and requires an understanding of certain chemical reactions I have not got my head fully around... it is DEEP to put it in a simple way.. LOL

I am working on it, but am not totally there.. yet..

"Is it a case of high attract at loss of nutrition or about as good a compromise as we can get between the 2 at present"

The contributions by Les Watts on attractor leakage in the latest BCSG book (Rotary Letter 2) should be required reading for all those who make bait, it explains what you are thinking about 'attractor' loss. It will conversly put you onto a different train of thought if your mind is that way inclined....

However, substitute a boilie for a dissolving bait and it all reverses... But... dissolving baits present their own special problems....

High attract is a nebulous concept, 'attract' means they get a feeding reaction to the signal in the case of a carp. 'Attractors' are well documented for carp and most on the market do not fall into that definition.