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#342857 - 09/08/09 10:09 PM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: Paul Selman]
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"Andy, the purpose of the pre-digested is to improve the biological value of the bait (thus its digestability) in the gut, after eating, not prior....wink"



I thought I knew that, but assumed that I must have been informed wrong if Pete was telling us that it does nothing. blush

Surely if the stuff is predigested and soluble it will also be leaching amino’s into the water, thus giving off food signals? thumbsup
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#342859 - 09/08/09 10:36 PM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: andy jack]
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Perhaps "silmultaneous" is the key word here Andy...... smile
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#342860 - 09/08/09 10:40 PM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: miasma]
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Is that some sort of shape. lol

So are you suggesting that it does both?

Thats what I was getting at in my last post, obviously not doing a very good job of it though. thumbsup
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#342861 - 09/08/09 10:49 PM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: andy jack]
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No.....its a form of "equation"... smile

To be of practical use...does the AA/Enzyme algorithm
have to be simultanious and contemptory ? ......
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#342863 - 09/08/09 11:10 PM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: miasma]
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Sorry mate that has just gone right over my head. I have never looked into it that deeply and my limited education does not stretch to enzyme algorithms. In fact scratch that, it does not stretch to algorithms full stop. blush

In short I aint got a clue what you are on about. frown
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#342864 - 09/08/09 11:17 PM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: andy jack]
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..And yet....I know you will be back.... smile
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#342868 - 10/08/09 05:54 AM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: miasma]
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hahaha lol...

been reading this post with great enthusiasm..and i`ll tell thee now i can decipher information coming from a distant star to the seti institute easier lol

i think and i could be wrong here again.. is what pete put was an economical effective mix.. thats less mither with less ingredients but gives equal attractivity.. maybe a little less but for the costs .ample..less is more..and maybe some ingredients that claim certain values maybe annulled when combined with certain other ingredients..so i`d opt for what pete put and add a little sommat to harden thumbsup
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#342870 - 10/08/09 07:54 AM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: miasma]
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I assume that all comes down to the enzymes already catered for by Mr. Carp itself, the time of the year ( watertemperature), the denaturation of AA profile by heat treatment, the treatment after boiling (drying, storing etc), the knowledge we have about the nutritional value of the ingredients used and all these concidered in one formulation. Heehee! And then there are people who thinks they know about bait.

Gentlemen we know absolutely nawt about bait.

Paul,

dont you think maizemeal is a much better "binder"(it doesn't really, does it?) than semo concidering the use of soy ingredients in certain formulations?

anyways...

I think I would prefer Pete's mix. Sesame oil hasn't brought me more succes than peanut oil. It's only more expensive and - in many cases.

Wey protein in fishmealmixes hasn't either...

have a nice one. I'm out prebaiting

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#342871 - 10/08/09 11:19 AM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: Mitsz van der Kamp]
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Mitz I don't use maize meal or semolina in any of my mixes as a binder, since nutritional quality is key to me... bash

I tend to use milk proteins as a binder namely casein and lactalbumen.....wink
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#342894 - 10/08/09 08:45 PM Re: Bait buffs opinions please. [Re: Paul Selman]
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Paul,you obviously have far too much money available to you if those are your given choice as binders mate!!!!!

Gissa sub geezer??? thumbsup
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