Can any one tell me if bri's going to be allowed back on here at some point in time??

Come on some say summat, is he or is he not allowed back??

I doubt it....

reason being.....??
Has tudge been banned also??

Have i missed summat?
Thought those two had been quiet lately.

People only get banned for breaking Forum rules...

Tudge isn't banned...

he and tudge had the handbags out, bri defended himself an it looks like he may be the only one who got banned for it?!

which rule was broken Paul?? just for future reference.. you know, dont want to go absently making the same mistake do i??

Posting drivel late at night when pissed..and then abusing a Moderator for just doing his job - not the first time he has done this and was on a FW warning...

MarkJ just locked a pointless thread full of Brian's tripe and received this lovely PM from him

"see you locked it bye fella
hope the manure forum gets on Timber told me of this so bye
tell dean he's lost out on a few orders laters TW&T bizzie"

Nothing whatsoever to do with Tudge - that was later....

ok, if i got wrong end of stick, i apologise! Bri admits to being a bit of a p**** ed' but he does NOT do drugs.

MarkJ just locked a pointless thread full of Brian's tripe and received this lovely PM from him

"see you locked it bye fella
hope the manure forum gets on Timber told me of this so bye
tell dean he's lost out on a few orders laters TW&T bizzie"



well in that case its his own fault he got banned it is shame he has gone now does that mean he is taking his toolbox with him

toolbox??

Ah, alcohol, a legalised drug, same as nicotine, and please, dont post to tell me nicotine and alcohol are not drugs, alcohol is harder to give up than poppy dirivatives, and I talk from personal experiance

Take it you never saw Bri's oversized rig wallet?

Seriously though, Bri was good for a bit of banter & debate but obviously there is a line & he crossed it. Shame.

Would't dream of it, because they are.



Even if your personal experience suggests otherwise, I doubt that very much. That said, I totally accept that at least for some people alcohol can be just as damaging as any drug.

Personally I find it totally non addictive. I enjoy a drink but can go months without a beer and don’t give it a second thought. Doubt I could be so blase, take it or leave it, after a few major binges on poppy derivatives.

i take it you've never watched anybody close to you die of alcohlism
then andy,unfortunately i have lost 2 very good mates through alcohol and it aint pretty.

unlike opiates or other class a's,an alcoholics dealer are at every street corner in every town,every restaurant,super market even family gatherings,theres no getting away from it.

its an old cliche but absolutely true,if it was discovered today it would be illeagal,what other mood altering mind bending drug can you nip down the local supermarket and buy.

Ommitted to mention that I watched my mother suffer a protracted illness, cirrosis of the liver, bought on by acute alcholism, as I've said elsewhere, alcholics are born as alcoholics, they dont aquire the addiction through binge drinking, and as Eagle says, the dealers are legal and they are everywhere, aided and abbetted by the stupid legislation of this current government:-(

Aerosols...Adhesives..Deodorants..Paint..Lighter Fuel..etc,etc..

Flower seeds, bannana skins,Dimaryl...the list is endless, but alcohol is STILL the worst, and nicotine, if you care to do a bit of research, is far far more addictive than smack, hands up those who tried to give up smoking/drinking....c'mon look into your souls and be honest with yourselves, you think you're a social drinker doing 5/6,whatever pints a night, youre a social alkie, and the ones who who sit at home posting on here AND and getting sozzled....you'll know who you are, and sorry, but I make no apology's for the observations...just giving you food for thought

one more thing.. alcohol is the only drug(with the exception of benzodiazepams like valium,ativan,temazepam etc) that can kill you if you stop taking it abrutly..unlike skag,crack,crystal meth,amphetamine etc where going through withdrwal might feel like your dying but in actual fact wont.

so its hardly a lightweight drug,just socialably excepted

You presume wrong Paul.

I have also witnessed the damage it can do long before it gets to that sorry stage, families ripped apart etc.

I never said it was good, just questioned the claim that it was more addictive. Which is why I wrote.



The key word there is SOME

For people who are susceptible to alcohol addiction, drink is a real evil, as damaging as any drug.

That said there are millions of people out there who have had a serious fling with booze in their late teens early 20's who never go on to develop an addiction to it.

Do you think the same would be true if it was socially acceptable for 70% of young people to get wrecked on heroin every weekend for a number of years?

Alcohol may be harder to give up than poppy derivatives for some individuals, but as a sweeping generalisation I don't agree that alcohol is more addictive.

i,ll drink to that \_/

So now we know why Bri has such a big fishing box. For all his beer.

Taken in context, for an alcoholic the above statement absolutley correct, it assumes of course the person concerned is abusing both drugs.





As I said previously, alcoholics are born, current research indicates alcohol addiction is part of a persons genetic makeup, it does however need sparking off. Heroin addicts are not born addicted to heroin, (unless of course the mother uses herion during her pregnancy, then the child is born with a habit by default), its like tea and coffee...an aquired taste.

Andy,I agree with the you 100% that if, like yourself, you are not a born alcoholic it's less likeley that you will become an alcoholic, but born an alcoholic...it's that indivduals destiny.

And I think at the last count there were over 500,000 alcohlics in the UK, I personally know at least 12 people who I consider to be alcoholics...2 of them on my mothers side of the family, and I dont include myself, I've beem a 'recovering alcoholic' for over 5 years....and extremeley proud of the fact

Lets get this right shall we lads,both alcohol and nicotine are taxed by the government and that is the only reason that society is allowed to contract lung cancer or alcoholism,purely because our so called fcukin leaders get their frigging wages through it and they are the biggest frigging law breakers out there

Now i dont know whats happened here to warrant Bri to get banned from this site,but i liked him on here and at times he was a breath of fresh air.

I have had first hand experience of what drink and drugs can do to a person,and for fcuk sake,if what ive just read is what Bri said is correct,then do you really think that warrents him being banned????


I myself having spent over 24yrs on the doors of pubs and clubs have been privy to far greater insults from sober folk and taken it on the chin,not very forgiving are we fellas?

Or is it only ads and mods that are allowed to publicly belittle people on this forum??????At least the bloke pm"d his [censored]

ere ere dean!! well said m8!

Dean I know you mean well, but you are expressing an opinion based upon only seeing part of the picture.

Brian was previously banned and was only given back his posting rights after he promised to abide by the site rules.


We have a very experienced moderator team who are by comparison very lenient and relaxed.

Is this the AA forum....

Im being a good boy...Brian should have been too...personally I feel his pm to Mark was tame...ive give him far more sh1t than that before now

Drugs...easy to stop...cider....nasty sh1t and im still struggling

Same goes for you John, the PM was simply the icing on the cake.

Fact is, if we have to delete things a member can be apparently banned for nothing.

The general forum member sees very little of the cr*p posted by some members due to active Moderators & Admin.... that can mean that they feel a member has been excluded unjustly... this is not so, this is the least moderated (most tolerant) site anywhere... many things posted on here would be cut short at the start on any other site... but.. we still have lines that cannot be crossed...

For what its worth and from what i have read Brian was popular and a funny guy, we all cross the line some more than others but it surely takes a bigger man to forgive than one who won't.

Schooch..

It all depends on how many times you cross the line and disregard the warnings....

Fair comment but he was good value for money....

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Fair comment but he was good value for money.... [/quote]

That depends on how many times you have to warn someone about taking good threads and turning them into sh*te....

That depends on how many times you have to warn someone about taking good threads and turning them into sh*te.... [/quote]

Theres plenty guilty of that !!

myself included but will be ducking the comedy twins from now on .

Schooch...

As a site we are very tolerant.... if you get a warning, unless your crime is sufficient to warrant an immediate ban (rare) then you have a couple of strikes before you are 'out'.. we ban no-one unless it is the last option... and only then after consideration.... in short, if you get banned from here for posting drivel, you have to be a class "A" drivel poster... in other words an anally retentive....