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#278443 - 10/02/06 10:34 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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Dannon active yoghurt bait dips work out a little cheaper......

Lactobacillus Bulgarices and Streptococcus Thermophilus rule...OK?...
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#278444 - 10/02/06 10:35 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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A very good point, one that i will sleep on,in fact initial testing that i have witnessed has been in paste form but with amazing reactions!!!!!!perhaps £2000 is a tad expensive and just tips the scales against commercial viability???Time will tell,extreme heat degeneration i am reliably informed shouldnt cause a problem the complementary protein structure within the bait combined with a selected combination of effective enzymes (a closely gaurded secret thus far,and trust me it is out there) is the key!!!
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#278445 - 10/02/06 10:40 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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And much tastier no doubt Dont come close 2 fromage frais tho does it? must stop nicking the kids packed lunch
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#278446 - 10/02/06 10:48 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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Is Fromage Frais active?....
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#278447 - 10/02/06 11:40 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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Leave it out of the fridge unopend for a couple of weeks,then open, ITS ACTIVE, BELIEVE ME .

Just a point, all the body building supplements contain enzymes that can be utilised in carp baits, they dont cost £2000 a kilo, WHY is afdding them to a carp bait not a viable proposition?, they only need adding as a blend at appx 5 grms tops to a kilo of base....I theenk
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#278448 - 11/02/06 12:46 AM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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Dean...

Cy is correct, enzymes simply enable two things:
a. the easier utilisation of the bait by the carp
b. the release of aminos & peptide chains as a side issue to (a)

now this may seem a little point, but it is not.. we all go for things to make our bait more attractive, this route allows you to do that without the need for artificial chemical signals.

When combined with a well sorted basemix, (FLAA and all that) it turns a bait into a very nutritious and highly attractive one.. It can be expensive, but there are ways of doing it that could be incorporated into a commercial bait..
Potential problems would be customers not following storage instructions and the obvious one of allowing people who have no clue trying to make it in the first place...

Temperature is a key, but it depends when you allow enzymatic activity and whether you kill the process at the boiling stage or not.. bait storage is another issue.. you cannot do shelflife...

That stuff I had at the Selby fish in was a sample from China.. if I had bought a Kilo it would have set me back over £1900... That was an enzyme with esterase capabilities.. a bit of overkill really...
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#278449 - 11/02/06 01:51 AM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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And so endeth the lesson!!!!!!! another late one my friend? i myself was awoken by a strong force of jedi proportion and was teleported to my galactic communicator,where upon i found my answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COMMERCIAL VIABILITY U C Skywalker with u the force is strong .My quest has brought us 2gether and i will pay a handsome sum of your earth pounds to share with u your infinte wisdom on this topic ........... Wot the fcuk was that all about?Gotta stop eating mushrooms
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#278450 - 11/02/06 05:33 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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gotta stop eating mushrooms




Dont stop, it some times helps in expanding your outlook


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#278451 - 11/02/06 06:08 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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Dont do nowt for my outlook except giving everything a multicoloured glow!! Usually wake up in a bush somewhere and usually in a different town And why dont they wash the dirt off the buggers????
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#278452 - 11/02/06 06:42 PM Re: ENZYMES AND THEIR ATTRACTION
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Dannon active yoghurt bait dips work out a little cheaper......

Lactobacillus Bulgarices and Streptococcus Thermophilus rule...OK?...





Well their certainly turning up in a variety of different products thesedays.
Purchased a tub of CLOP today (horsey feed supplement) and was confronted by a large sticky label extolling the virtues of the recently added probiotic Protexin which according to the manufacturers.....

"is a culture of beneficial microflora such as Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium to improve intestional health"

A couple of minutes in boiling water then should see these bacterium whatsit blighters off for good....
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