Ok, it seems as if things come about in carp fishing, and if you dont tow the line you are marked down as a bad un. I confess, I sem to be a bad un. I read an article in a Carp mag that amazed me. I dont have the mag in front of me to ensure complete accuracy, but it goes something like this.

The Korda team caught over forty carp, plus a load of bream, in a carp match. On every fish the lead came off, safety of course
They used 4.5 ounce leads. Now, doing the maths, if you ignore the bream, that 40 x 4.5 ounces = 180 ounces. I make that OVER TEN POUNDS OF LEAD LEFT IN ONE SWIM

Now, I have a confession to make here. My leads are usually still on the line when I land a carp. I put them on so that should they hit a snag they will come of with a good tug. I read articles telling me to just lift the hook and if the lead stays on its a tether rig, but quite frankly I dont buy that. I do class my setup as safe, but this lead falling of when a carp farts near the bait is silly, IMHO. And leaving ten pounds of lead in a swim is bloody stupid, to be honest.

Any thoughts

Lance...no bloody wonder Korda charge so much for leads , they have to cover Team Korda's losses ....but to answer your question, leaving 10lbs of lead in a swim is extreme ...to say the least, me I begrudge 3ozs of lead , let alone 10lbs..

Here, here gents. I bet if those Korda lads had to buy their leads, there would have been a lot less left in the swim

Seriously though, how lose do you go

I cut my clips back, trim the body of the safety clip to make sure the ring of the lead slides back, wet the whole lot before assembly and it all pulls apart easy-peasy, yet I rarely lose the lead.

10lbs of lead left in a swim, that's taking the p*ss. Shame on Korda

Are you sure you have remembered the article correctly John?

Axe

i can't help thinking that this is just a marketing ploy
i'm all for fish safety etc.but to lose a lead on every fish regardless of whether the fish has buried itself in a weedbed,oh come on!.
10lb,or £40, of lead left lying around in a lake in one session is a bloody crime in itself.
and it would be very sad if some people resent this ploy so much that they abandon "safety" rigs altogether,and fish are then back to towing leads about,OR WORSE!

Tap lead into a search engine and have a look at some of the US anti lead sites and some of the novel alturnatives they have developed including stone,cast iron and steel.
Apart from the birdlife concerns our American cousins are increasingly worried about lead poisioning/contamination from lost leads(sinkers) in their rivers and lakes many of which are the source of their domestic supply.
Ten pounds of lead lost per match in one swim is sowing the seeds of future trouble for us both politically and ecologically.

I have mentioned this disgusting practice on here before. Leaving lead (ie intended to shed it on the take) is EVIL.

Lakes don`t need it. If you want to shed weight then tie a pebble on. Drill your pebbles and loop em with mono onto the clip. Leave stones in a swim, not lead. Korda are takin the piss with this and I hate it.

Leave the lakes as we find them, clean and free from foreign bodies (and I don`t mean the sort who are baking swans.... ).

Danny needs a slap if this is true. I can`t believe some of the hype posted about now. Leaving lead in a swim is as bad as a bag full of litter on the bank. No, its worse. The bag can be picked up, the lead is an ecological timebomb. Man, this has made me so angry reading this.....

As I've said before, use the Fox lead clips with the run ring. They only come off when snagged. If the line snaps the fish snags the lead and off it comes. I too think it is poor fishing to leave that amount of lead in a swim.

I've had arguments with people who have tried to dictate that the lead should fall off on every take, so I'm really pleased to find that I'm not the only one who thinks this practice is utterly stupid and irresponsible. I had never thought of deliberately discarded leads as litter before but that is actually spot on. If the lead is snagged and the main line broken it is still highly likely that a carp will pull the swivel from the lead clip and free itself. If the aim is purely to ensure that the lead does not get stuck in heavy weed when playing a fish, then this surely gets close to the "a fish at any cost" syndrome. It seems to make a nonsense of barbed or barbless hook/mouth damage arguments when people are prepared to drag a carp forcibly through a few hundred pounds of weed. Surely there comes a time when even if the tackle exists to make it physically possible, you should draw a line and say that sometimes the carp are in places where you just shouldn't fish. I think I've stayed on the topic...just about.

Am I to assume that this is the latest sh1t that is doing the rounds in the mags? Or a simple mistake?

Serious question as was my one above...

Axe